Blue Label Serial Number
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Watson October 9, 2019 Blog No Comments So you have been planning to buy a Glock for a long time and after conducting thorough researches, something odd comes to your attention: The original cases of several Glocks feature a blue label while others have a red one.
Introduction: 1967ish - 1977 (based on serial numbers)Discontinued: 1976Background: "Late '65, early '66 after Ludwig took over the distribution of Formula 602's for North America, Joe Morello was approached by Bill Ludwig to endorse Paiste. Since Joe played and endorsed Ludwig Drums, he was the obvious choice for a signature cymbal set baring his name. Paiste catalog: "In personal collaboration with Joe Morello, this beautiful melodically coordinated set was created" A custom set of Formula 602 cymbals made to Joe's specification (the 1st. artist model!) comprising of 14" sound edge hi hats, 17", 18" and 20" sizes. Visual cues show much finer lathing and possibly different hammering compared to the standard 602'sAlloy: B20 (CuSn20)Production: Hand hammered and hand lathed bronze. Fine tonal groove lathing. Applications: Jazz styles appropriate for the era (late 60's).Sound: Similar to the standard 602's possibly a little darker?
Towards the end of the preserial era (1969 or so) we start to see cymbals which have some ink which is associated with the next period. The transition time to serial numbers is also when we find the 5 Outline Stamps. The ink can augment our understanding of the changes during the transition from the preserial era to the black label era, and which embossed stamps are used on which cymbals.
There are three different embossed stamps which are found in this era. This era represents cymbals produced from about mid 1972 to 1981. Almost all Black Label era cymbals have serial numbers but there are a few examples of cymbals from the early 1970s which have Black Label style ink but no serial number.
The Outline Stamp is used from just before serial numbers appear until the Blue Label era (1981). If you see a Formula 602 cymbal with an Outline Stamp it is something like 99% likely to have a serial number.
Black label serial numbers (counting hat pairs as 2)1971: none so far1972: 291973: 401974: 411975: 271976: 261977: 321978: 371979: 281980: 181981: 181982: 1 (serial number PAISTE 602 / 238079)1983: none so farBlue label serial numbers (counting hat pairs as 2) 1980: none so far1981: 321982: 231983: 171984: 191985: 151986: 131987: 121988: 211989: 81990: 91991: 21992: 41993: none so far
Note the importance of the prefix. Without the PAISTE 602 prefix that one 1982 Black Label cymbal would have been 1972. If that serial number had prefix pAisTe it would be 1992. Prefix matters, although there are sometimes other ways to correctly assign the decade based on ink and for specific models. If the serial number has a prefix above it -- pay attention. That's what makes the decade (thus the whole serial number) unique. We think the myth of serial numbers starting in 1970 arose because people were not paying proper attention to the prfix.
When the Formula 602 cymbals were reissued in 2011 they first came out with 8 digit serial numbers as seen on the last of the Blue Label cymbals. Very soon after this Paiste switched to a laser stamp which is on the bottom rather than the top. The Laser Stamp Era is also referred to as the Reissue Era, although once again there are a very few Reissued Formula 602s which don't have a laser stamp.
Paiste serial numbers were first applied during 1972. Prior to this there was no exact means of determining the age of a Paiste cymbal, there were more general indicators that would get you in the ball park age wise: the years of production for the series or model, lack of or presence of ink stamping, different version of the logo stamp, alloy used or even the size of the bell or mounting hole.These cymbals are referred to as "Pre-Serial" cymbals.
German-made 2002's started receiving serial numbers from very late 1973 onwards (a few earlier 2002 examples exist). Some collectors are sure they have 1971 production 2002 cymbals with serial numbers starting with 1xxxxx, they are in fact German made 2002's with a different serial numbering format.The German numbering system differs from the Swiss system in that that cymbals were numbered consecutively; the first digit does not equal the year! If you are looking at a German Black Label 2002 from the 1970s, the second digit is a good general indicator of the year (this also applies to all post '74 lower line German produced cymbals except the 101).
Starting in 1981, "PAISTE" was stamped above the serial number, often along with the series name. (NOTE: This change occurred sometime during the year, some examples of the previous style exist with 1981 serial numbers.)
Another identifying factor of early preserial 602 sound edge bottoms is they had a higher "ripple count" than later versions, it seems Paiste had not decided on a standard number when sound edges were first introduced.
56 14" preserial x 354 15" pat pending; 15" black52 14" preserial x 751 15" with 51 reputed (probably miscount by 1)50 15" preserial; 14" preserial46 14" preserial42 14" black label; 14" preserial, 1972 13"38 14" black label36 14" black label x 332 14" blue label; 14" present day
The label is located between the V of the flywheel support legs, on the bottom side of the rower. The serial number represents the date the rower was boxed (mm/dd/yy). An example Model D serial number from this time frame is 082205/1.
Located between the V of the flywheel support legs, the label is located on the left side of the flywheel housing. See illustration. When asked for the serial number of your indoor rower, this is the number to use.
The serial number contains three groups of numbers separated by dashes. The first group of numbers represents the date the unit was boxed, the second group represents the Concept2 part number, and the third group represents the monitor serial number.
One each of Red, Black, Gold, and Blue. I have never tasted Blue and will probably not open this bottle unless it's a true special occasion as it's the best blend I have ever received in my young life. Can somebody tell me the meaning of the Serial number on the label, and if I can glean any information about the blend or the aging from this.
If you have a garage door made by Clopay Building Products Company, Ideal Door Company, or Holmes Garage Door Company, you may be able to use the model number, PID number, or serial number to determine the door weight so you can select the proper replacement springs. Finding the label that contains these numbers may save time and energy that you would otherwise spend measuring the springs or weighing the door. However, these labels can be difficult to find. Here are some helpful tips.
Most Clopay doors have labels placed on the inside of the door, usually at the left end of the bottom or first intermediate section. Sometimes the sticker is at the right end of the door. On this label, you will find the door serial number. Usually, the model number of the door is part of the serial number, but on newer doors, it is part of a separate PID number. That is the case with this Model 4050 below.
The yellow sticker shown below was used from about 1998 to 2003. The serial numbers during those years contained 16-18 digits. The model numbers are usually located in the middle of the serial number as you see here in this model 4050.
Ideal has used a variety of stickers over the years. As with most manufacturers, Ideal sticks labels to one end of each section. That is what we see here on this partly opened S/R 4RST door. If you are unable to open the door, look behind the lower vertical track with a flashlight on both sides of the door to find this label. It will list a 3-6 digit standalone model number.
Similar to Ideal Door, Holmes labels list a standalone model number. And like Ideal or Clopay, a Holmes label may be stuck to the flag bracket. You can also find them on one side of the reinforcing strut if there is one.
The serial number can be found on the UPC label of the box [FIG. 1] or printed on a sticker at the bottom of the product [FIG. 2]. 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